Their country is very tech high, i never once said that it was not. Are you saying that because BP stays in Wakanda he can't gather enough experience? This is a list of characters who got their powers from of being worthy of lifting Mjolnir. cut up Black Panther while ignoring that Black Panther also fought and beat Sabretooth without taking a hit on another occasion. He's a lot more focused than Panther. Black Panther #23 - trailer Comic: 60fps: 4: 1/9 8:20PM: How should Black Panther's death in the MCU be handled? Not all of these guys are master martial artists but many are, and the ones that aren't have other abilities that make them dangers in h2h. Would've killed to see the CW between them.Post Edited:2007-05-11 09:48:49, I can agree with the villians he fights, and the fact that he fights tribes and stuff in his nation, but some off those tribes should not have the weaponary they do( blame the writters). The Asgardian weapon has an enchantment on it that allows only the very few who are worthy of heart and spirit to wield it, and manifest the powers of the God of Thunder. He knows how to delegate. looks like nobody here reads Black Panther. I change my vote. Just because you don't know exactly which MA masters trained BP doesn't mean it's any less valid. With CBR, he has been able to write about his favorite subjects, from the MCU to Doctor Who. i can offer no defense agiasnt someone that has.. or use magic items.... that magice seem to me the monkey in the bush. During Odin's conquests of the Nine Realms, his eldest daughter, Hela, possessed Mjølnir and with it she helped her father in his battles. I'm not saying he can't work around the armor, but his primary method is punches and strikes, not grappling. I agree both are at the same level, but they are not on par with each other. He has the on hand knowledge/experience. The reason he fought them doesn't matter, just that he did, and that he won. Cap has been shot(not talking about death shot), been though explosion, been cut, fought with broken bones. also from doing quick scan, it now hard to say who bp has fight, the guys seems to be everywhere he should not be. Worthy of Mjolnir. Do you doubt that his training actually did something? Im not saying he stays there, he is the rouge king thats does as he please. At the start of Avengers' "Age of Khonshu" storyline, Moon Knight helped his god steal power from some of the most powerful superheroes in the world in order to face the coming threat of Mephisto, and part of this significant power grab meant stealing Thor's hammer, Mjolnir. Like I said, just because BP hasn't been alive as long as Cap doesn't mean he can't stand up to him in a fight. He'd be just as focused in the battle as Cap. I think I am going to go with Cap America. 148. It turns out that Khonshu has control over the hammer because the Uru that it's made of is a moonstone. The Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe lists Captain America's strength at "peak of human potential" and he has the ability to lift 800 lbs. lol" really though do we have to resort to magic, that seems like a last dicth effort, and give bp no meridt in his fight game :(. So what that list is meant to say is, his training is actually used, and regularly. There are also plenty of African supervillains (some of them are on the list above). I don't think you know anything about Wakanda if you're saying that all they have are vibranium spears. BP is basically wearing Sabretooth's hands (with projectile nails). June 2019. iPhone Wallpapers for iPhone 12, iPhone 11, iPhone X, iPhone XR, iPhone 8 Plus High Quality Wallpapers, iPad Backgrounds. No, you don't. BP also has training in wakandan magic so i'm sure he can use that to help his fight. If he could overcome his opponents experience then, why can't he do it now?). Even Loki and a human named Adam Aziz were recently able to lift the hammer, although that is due to the hammer's enchantment exhibiting strange behavior. First, Hawkeye hands the gauntlet off to Black Panther who gets swarmed with Chitauri after a bit and Spider-Man swings in to grab it. In Jason Aaron and Javier Garrón's Avengers #36, a member of the team goes up against Khonshu and proves to have control over Thor's hammer, Mjolnir. I did this to make 2 vairables. It didnt look that like he had it under control. Is it safe to say that t/chaka was on par with captain or his match? And if he tries to get in and hold BP so he can wrestle him or break limbs through the armor or something, he's just going to come face to face with claws that can cut through pretty much anything. Not like a lame doom attack, or magneto trying to invade or lame aliens. oh yeh where will they fight? It still gives me goosebumps when I think back to this amazing moment in the Marvel Cinematic Universe. if they fight in a city area it will be more of a even fight. This Black Panther can be seen with Mjolnir in his grasp, summoning the power of lightning. Captain America: Civil War - Bucky, Captain America and Falcon vs. Black Panther WITH HEALTHBARS He was a guest star when he 1st appeared with ff4 i think, tahn avengers than his on series, he got to fight others villians cause of this, i will take back my statement about who he fights, i need to look at info more, but marvel villians seem to pose more threat than his villians, maybe thats why he always out n about away from his land? Cap is not the only one with a high threshold for pain. oh yeh just fore the record BP has new battle armor that changes depending on the power of the guy he's fighting. It's a credit to his skill that he was able to beat a superior opponent at such a young age. No we are using magic??!!? I have been trying to work on my grammar skills, with classes. No the superhuman/super soldier was meant to create just that A "super level human", but as said these are minor things and writter "screws up". i do so not like taking about battles like these without clear info. Anyway, since no decade was specified, we're using current. Captain America - the strongest Avenger. Not only that, Black Panther was already better without it. He might be just as beat up as Cap but he'd still pull out the win. That's not to mention he's much smarter, wears armor that would protect him from Cap's brute force, weapons that will cut right through Cap, senses that keep him alert all the time, and is just as good a fighter (if not better) than Cap. How is he not at least equal to Cap? Silver St. The King of Wakanda goes toe-to-toe with the God of Thunder in this next MCU Madness tournament matchup. This is why Black Panther is able to exert a certain amount of control over the hammer. well i guess you got the last wordsPost Edited:2007-05-10 19:34:11, As far as peak strength goes, I don't see anyone besides Wolverine taking Cap in a fist fight. Who is talking about magic?Post Edited:2007-05-10 16:33:36, I was going by the marvel universe comics not the website. Strange begins looking for the next fragment of the Evil Eye and quickly locates it with his magic. If the heart shape herb takes you to superhuman level, as define by marvel or others, than how did a normal human win, but thats writting for you. He has several winning qualities, from being very knowledgeable, experienced in the art of combat, and a natural leader. The only thing I see that Cap really has over BP is a little strength (which doesn't matter because of BP's uniform) and endurance. He was alive a few months (weeks?) The shield could be a problem but if thrown, T'Challa's senses and agility would be more than enough to avoid it. If you are, I'm going to disagree. ago. MCU MADNESS: #14 Black Panther vs. #19 Thor. Before WandaVision: Who Was Anti-Vision, the Avenger's Dark Double? Now to think about it, im not saying bp is not smart, but his people have a rule of not going beyond their kingdom. The apparent observable vibratory rate of the molecules of the Vibranium itself does not noticeably increase when the Vibranium absorbs mechanical energy. WARNING: The following article contains spoilers for Avengers #36, by Jason Aaron, Javier Garrón, Jason Keith and VC's Cory Petit, available now. © 2021 GAMESPOT, A RED VENTURES COMPANY. They are plenty close in strength, as comparing a … You rarely hear about them in normal (US based) Marvel stories, but they're there and BP has beaten them all. Ian Cardona has written for CBR since 2017. His costume and his claws are a part of him and they're things that Captain America can't handle. However, BP has probably superior battle tactics, and an infinite supply of resources in comparision. Just because Black Panther has not been alive for as long does not mean he is inexperienced and hasn't had his fair share of fights, and it definitely doesn't mean he couldn't stand up to Cap. It didn't make Captain America superhuman, just the very best human possible. If anyone is at a disadvantage it t'challa and he would know that, just because a tiger has no claws, it still a tiger..ie a threat. ), Thing, Quicksilver, Superskrull, the entire New Warriors team (while weakened), Kraven, White Wolf (the anti-BP, trained to fight since he was like 5), Killmonger, White Tiger, and most recently, Silver Surfer. Wakandan culture is a warrior culture. Vibranium comes from a nation called Wakanda, a small country in Africa and is the rarest metal on earth. I think it would be a good fight, but Black Panther would win because he's just as skilled, a little faster, has armor to cancel Caps strength advantage (even though Black Panther should be stronger, he hasn't shown the same strength as Cap has in comics so I think Cap is actually stronger), has weapons that can deal a lot more damage, is smarter, and on top of all that, he's just so much cooler. Once a year a contest is held where any citizen of Wakanda can challenge the current Black Panther for the right to rule. Black Panther, thanks to the panther goddess Bast, has superhuman levels of strength and … Staying in line, usally older fighters have the advantage of wisdom, experinece, and skill on their side. If you do not treaten his kingdom he may have a file on you but hes no batman, and even so he has not fought whats on the file. cap has fought many, on their tuff and than some. No, the serum was called the Super-Soldier formula. What dangers are there in Wakanda? What does he have other than more experience (and saying he has more does not mean T'Challa doesn't have any, just not as much) that T'Challa does not? But late 80's and early 90's cap would have mopped up 80's and early 90's black panther. Seller 100% positive. (That last one was a joke btw.) When have you ever seen him do that? Captain America Lifts Mjolnir Avengers Endgame iPhone Wallpaper - iPhone Wallpapers. Batman was trained all over the world and usually wins his h2h confrontations. He has plenty of experience, stats that equal (or trump) Cap's, just as much skill, intelligence that gives him an edge, and equipment that puts the fight in his favor. That would be close to Wakanda. RELATED: Venom Assembles The Avengers In Marvel's King In Black #1 First Look, As Black Panther says to a puzzled Khonshu, "Mjolnir knows my tribe, knows us well.". YOu used, he beat his so called uncle, who was superlevel as to how he became black panther, to show his skill, i am doing the same. Should I have said: 'Cap would pwn Black Panther'? When attacking other African nations, he goes into battle in nothing but his costume, no tanks, jets, or other tech. I showed that BP can take someone with experience (and Cap's stats). He's peak human, not superhuman. First of all, he regularly leaves Wakanda. The Super Soldier Serum was meant to make a just that, a superior soldier. Over the years, a few characters such as Captain America, Beta Ray Bill and Jane Foster have all proven worthy to lift Mjolnir. Now, Avengers #36 reveals that this God Tempest recognizes the line of Black Panthers as allies, given that their ancestor wielded the hammer at the dawn of time. If the fight really dragged on, Cap could win. The Black Panther and Mantis! Also, it seems like you're implying that there's an insufficient amount of skill in Wakanda for BP to pose a threat, which is also untrue. Likewise, you seem to forget that Black Panther has also beaten Wolverine (not all out battles, just small confrontations, but BP came out on top every time). Maybe even more so since losing would mean more to him than it would to Cap, seeing as a loss could be taken as weakness on his part, which is not good for a king. I know you know better than to dismiss cap shield its part of his unquie fighting style, where he has rank up impressive ko/defeat list. In a straight up fight Cap would own Black Panther. The first Marvel Museum Collection wave will consist of four collectibles - the Iron Man Mark VII helmet, Cap's shield, Black Panther's helmet and Thor's hammer Mjolnir. true but i'm sure BP would win anyway. You can follow him on Twitter at @ian_c1701 (yes, that is a Star Trek reference) for discussions, debates or pictures of really cool collectibles he probably doesn't have room for. Now that alot better post and I do agree with you Black Panther wins the fight. BLP vs FAL Dream11 Team Predictions And Hints ECS T10 - Barcelona: Captain, Vice-Captain, Fantasy XI, Probable XIs Match 98 Black Panthers vs Falco at … It's not like he'll be making treaties with Atlantis, curing cancer, building weapons, and running the Boys and Girls club while he's fighting. They're one of (if not the) most technologically advanced nations on the planet, far more advanced the America by the way. I haven't seen the sabretooth thing so I can't really talk about it except to say that Sabretooth is stronger, possibly faster, has the advantage of a healing factor and (sometimes) adamantium claws. 8 months ago. I lumped most of them together under "African Supervillains" in that list because I figured you wouldn't know who they were. Hulk & Black Panther > Captain America. Any reason? FUNKO POP Marvel CAPTAIN AMERICA CIVIL WAR Black Panther #130, NIW, Mint Box! BP would still get in that tail. With this, the issue shows a brief flashback panel of the first Black Panther, who fought alongside the Avengers 1,000,000 B.C. Loki gets tossed off the earth with Hulk. Only after Odin locked her up in Hel was Mjølnir taken from her. A one-stop shop for all things video games. I do not undersatnd your point with refenece to( His opponent had a lifetime more experience as well as other advantages, but T'Challa's own skill and intelligence overcame it. Once Spider-Man gets swarmed himself, Captain America, who is now wielding Mjolnir, throws the hammer across the battlefield. cap has fought many more battles, and without aid of bodyarmor and claws. Article by iPhone Wallpapers. But even before that (and before becoming Black Panther) he traveled all over the world to study to train both his mind and body, so he's learned other styles of fighting, not just what he grew up with. Getting disemboweled is not the same as getting punched. Heart shaped herb. It was normal, fair, hand to hand combat against someone on Captain America's level and he won with no enhancements. You ask how a normal human (T'Challa I'm assuming) won. There's a difference. Black Panther is loved by many within the MCU. That's why they're on the same level. This would give him great insight into bp style. Captain America's shield is an offensive and defensive weapon Every Iron Man suit is a weapon in itself Black Panther's suit, Panther Habit, is a … The point of these conversations is to pick who would win when you don't have writers picking favorites it doesn't matter that Panther beat the captain one time in a comic. Black Panther could just walk up to Cap, whisper "Wakanda" in his ear and watch Cap's head explode. Here i feel bp has not face as many threats as captain has. It does for Black Panther what the SSS did for Cap. as i will always say comics can sux, one sec i gut beats them, the next he loses. You're signed out. Does it matter where he first appeared? or rather Black Panther down. I not saying they are spear weilding warriors, im saying that thats was their roots, just like the sivler samurai weild a katanna base weaopn and armor base off his roots. I mean, Black Panther could just put him in a hammerlock and BAM! cap can still break joints, and throw him aginst things. You said Cap has experience. 2. Captain America went through a very significant character arc over the course of the two last Avengers films, with the conception in 2016's Captain America: Civil War, which had then also introduced Black Panther and … Wielding Mjolnir in one hand, the truth of her heroism is beyond question (even deceiving her friends for their own sake). his uncle is not captain, we can use him as a base, but that it. But if you want to compare a string of characters I could say: T'Challa (young, inexperienced, no powers) > his uncle = T'Chaka > young (but with all his powers) Cap. His opponent had a lifetime more experience as well as other advantages, but T'Challa's own skill and intelligence overcame it. There are other nations in Africa that attack, as well as other nations in the world. RELATED: Marvel And Fortnite Collide In Nexus War Variant Covers. being if we follow old stlye law where or how does he gain knowledge. just because he trainned does not mean he has done, you can train all you want, but it is not enough, it is only part a greater picture. Skillwise, they're about even but Panter would have more wins over Cap. ummm... T'challa has already won this fight in the comics, so this page is pointless. As king, T'Challa has to endure pain and hide it from his people so he isn't seen as weak. Curse the system that make you pay for such things, but am i doing better? ( this to ,can be left up to the writters, sometimes the guy "bp"outs, when he has no real reason or busniess to be out). captain fought in wars, in lands around the world, and still fought after that, i feel that he can counter whatever tactics bp can use and come up with. If Cap only used his right arm and left eye he could bea...Puhleeeeaze. He does this by picking up Mjolnir, proving himself worthy. Write the first paragraph of your page here. Coming in hotter than a speeding Hemsworth, it's this epic Captain America Wielding Mjolnir Endgame t-shirt! Um, that's rookie Captain America vs. T'Challa's grandfather. I not big on culture, and i try not to open that jar, but the guys comes from spears and sheild if we are to get like that, they could be made of virubruim but thats about it. But if things changed i guess they changed. The "wakanda" thing was a joke, not a mention of magic. Is far older, he fough bp father. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. He's mastered most every fighting style. In the Marvel Universe, there are only a few people who are able to wield the mighty hammer of Thor, Mjolnir. T'Challa (wearing a mask) challenged his uncle (who was said to rival T'Chaka, and had already taken the heart shaped herb) and beat him in combat. You're saying: Cap > Logan > Sabretooth > Black Panther. This is wrong for a few reasons. Both of these men are highly skill I just think Cap America has a little more experince that will gain him a victory. With this, the issue shows a brief flashback panel of the first Black Panther, who fought alongside the Avengers 1,000,000 B.C. Then after becoming BP he's fought and beaten the best warriors in his nation as well as many heroes and villains (with various fighting abilities and powers) in the Marvel Universe. In fact, he's living in America right now! Vibraniun absorbs vibratory energy in its vicinity, such as sound waves, within itself. Captian has faced enemies at home and far. He used good ol american know how, and knuckles. I black panther has to hide behind his technology to beat Cap that's fine. during the prehistoric era. He isn't only as strong as it is possible for a man to be, he is also as fast and as agile as a human can possibly be. He can throw one big projectile that Black Panther can easily dodge, while T'Challa can shoot a barrage of small energy daggers at him. It's like the African supersoldier serum. It'd be like Cap beating every enemy that sets foot in America, and doing it by himself 98% of the time. I figure that Black Panther is a warrior king, a diplomat, a scientist, and a special weapons designer, and helps out inner city youths on the side, oh yeah and now he's bumping uglies with Storm. To lose to someone of that level is not really a lost, and he did do quite well for just starting out. It's not friggen Mjolnir, it's Cap's shield. but in all i see captain handed it to t'challa, because he been there more times than not, been there meaning, if superfights, on death bed, and still pulled it off, bp suit is not an exo suit is it? Black Panther 1. Funko Pop Captain America Civil War Black Panther… A blow from Cap might knock BP back, a blow from BP would disembowel Cap thanks to anti-metal claws and vibranium micro-weave uniform negates almost all damage Cap could put out. Click the button below to start this article in quick view. Mjolnir was forged to contain the God Tempest, a powerful cosmic storm that was eventually tamed by Odin. It's not a total beatdown but Black Panther wins more often than not. A few months is not the same as a couple decades. As Black Panther says to a puzzled Khonshu, "Mjolnir knows my tribe, knows us well." $8.50 + $3.00 shipping. 1.) Who are you to say where he should or should not be? He uses armor and claws, when has he really been expoused. Covering the hottest movie and TV topics that fans want. Then, he makes it fly all around him, showing that he clearly has some control over it. I just dont see how cap beats these guys yet panther in is armor gets gutted somewhat by sabertooth? As god of the moons, he has control over the very substance of the hammer, which allows him to manipulate it. Steve shouts "Avengers Assemble!" plus with his abilities that work perfectly in the dark, if the battle drags through the night or they are in a dark place BP would win due to advantage. The writers and directors of Avengers: Endgame have conflicting views about whether or not Captain America was already worthy of lifting the Mjölnir in Avengers: Age of Ultron.Directors Joe and Anthony Russo have worked with writers Christopher Markus and Stephen McFeely four times in the MCU, including on the franchise's two biggest releases that capped off the Infinity Saga. Yes, Cap has taken a lot, but blunt force is not the same as getting cut. if they fight in a jungle (for example south america) BP would win easy. The hammerlock was a joke but I still think he would win. Here's why Thor looked so worried when Captain America tried to lift Mjölnir in Avengers: Age of Ultron.The second Avengers film may not be as well-received as its predecessors, but it has some of the memorable moments from MCU's original group of heroes.
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